Here's a comparison of the two designs:
|5.85 Theeve TiAX, new design on the left in black, old design on the right in raw|
The build quality on the trucks is better than the first batch, too. I handle and skate lots of different types of skateboard trucks, and until this redesigned Theeve came along, none have ever matched the near-perfection of Independent trucks. Many trucks out there have casting marks on the hangers, casting overflow on the axles, spaces and bumps where the casting wasn't completely even, uneven axle placement in the hanger (extremely common in Gullwings and also seen on one Venture V5), uneven density of aluminum across the truck, damaged threads on kingpins and axles, coarse threading -the wrong type - on a kingpin (true! It was a Tensor magnesium), and other problems. Independent trucks seem to suffer none of the problems plaguing the casting of most skateboard trucks. The only flaws I've ever seen in Independent trucks are misaligned mounting holes, a misaligned pivot cup hole, and a mounting hole on the baseplate that was fouled with excess paint. The redesigned 5.85 Theeve TiAX trucks are the first trucks I've seen with build quality that surpasses even Independent. Everything is just perfect. The paint is evenly applied, the axles are mounted perfectly in the hangers, the threading on the axles and kingpins has already been cleaned up, the holes are perfectly drilled. Everything is just right. After inspection, I mounted them up and hit the skatepark.
|5.85 Theeve TiAX trucks mounted on my park board (Creature Stu Graham 8.8 x 32.5)|
|5.85 Theeve TiAX in black with stock Bones Hardcore medium bushings|
|5.85 Theeve TiAX in black with new black Bones Hardcore hard bushings. Looks good, huh? Theeve, are you taking note of how awesome the black Theeves look with the black Bones Hardcore bushings?|
|5.85 Theeve TiAX with black Bones Hardcore hard bushings. All black looks awesome.|
Even the speed washers are black. It looks awesome. All black is the perfect color combination for my Creature decks.
The performance of the newly redesigned 5.85 Theeve TiAX trucks was exactly like the first batch. The trucks are miracles of engineering. They turn and respond like loose trucks but have the stable on-center feel of tight trucks. I don't even know how that's possible, but Theeve has done it. They feel smooth, predictable, stable, and responsive. Most of all, they are smoother and more reliably responsive than Independent trucks. Theeves make my Indys feel twitchy, and that is a major feat, as my Indys used to make every other truck feel twitchy, even many longboard, reverse-kingpin trucks. The Theeves perform better than the Independents, and I never thought the day would come when a truck would do that, but Theeves have. The Bones bushings take all of 10 minutes of carving around the park to break in. I didn't even adjust the kingpin bolts after initial set up. I used the exact same number of turns as my first Theeves, and the trucks responded exactly the same. That's the type of consistency that I've found is typical of the Theeve trucks. Not a lot of tuning is involved, just set up and go.
The first grind on my first Theeves, which were raw (unpainted, that is), was on metal coping, and everything went smoothly and predictably. My first grind on my new Theeves, which are painted black, was on the same metal coping. The grind was slippery because of the painted truck. So I went over to a cement sidewalk, waxed up the edges, and slappy grinded the paint off the grinding surface of the trucks. I went back into the skatepark, 50-50ed the coping, and the trucks locked in predictably and reliably. Problem solved.
|5.85 Theeve TiAX trucks in black. Gotta grind the paint off on some concrete to get good grinds on metal coping. It's a cinch.|
|5.85 Theeve TiAX trucks after first session. New hanger design with the same awesome performance. Best trucks ever!|