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Wednesday, May 2, 2012

Injuries! Mongo pride! Tylenol!

One harsh truth about skating with an old body is that injuries hurt worse and linger longer than when you were younger. A fall on Monday will still be painful on Saturday.

Right now, I'm nursing a number of injuries:

  • turf toe on my push foot
  • bruised tailbone
  • bruised palm on my right hand
  • tweaked wrist on my left hand
  • tweaked rib on left side
  • bruises all along my shins and knees from flip tricks
  • smashed up left thumbnail
The turf toe is taking an especially long time to heal. I've been pushing mongo so that I don't have to use my right toe so much. (I'm regular footed). A lot of people say "don't push mongo", but when I was living in Europe during my teen years, there was no such word as "mongo", because nobody cared what foot you pushed with. To my readers in Malmo, is this still the case? Do European skaters care what foot you push with? 
I have always pushed with whatever foot felt natural at the time, so, front foot pushing (mongo) for nose tricks
and for turning frontside while I'm pushing, and back foot pushing for tail tricks and for turning backside while I'm pushing. When I'm covering long distances with my skateboard, I alternate my pushing foot so that I spread out the muscle growth and lessen my overall fatigue. Now, though, with the turf toe on my back foot, pushing with that foot just makes the turf toe swell and get worse and not heal. So, I've been pushing mongo. Nobody makes fun of me, thankfully. Skaters under the age of about 16 years old don't even notice or care - they all just push with whatever foot feels comfortable for them. "Woodward" kids, that is, graduates of professionally-run skate camps, all push with their back foot no matter what tricks they're setting up for. Some of the older kids, over age 16, advise anybody they see to "never push mongo". They're not snobby about it, like the skaters in the late 90s were, but they are still offering the unsolicited and, ultimately, useless advice. I'll say right now: push front foot, push back foot, push both feet. Who cares? As an older skater, I'll push with whatever foot doesn't exacerbate my injuries, just so long as I get to keep skating. Mongo Pride. Fuck your rules.

For the bruising and tweaking, there's not much I can do. I just take acetaminophen (Tylenol) and try not to fall on the bruises again. The bruises on my shins and knees are like little love bites from flip tricks - these injuries I don't mind as much. They don't get in the way of skating and they kind of look gnarly. I'm also so happy that I can do kick flips at age 38 that the bruises feel worth it.

One injury that doesn't get in the way of skating but has the potential to get in the way of me earning a living is hand injuries. I'm a researcher/engineer, so I need my hands to type. The hand injury I currently have is a smashed up thumbnail on my left hand from slamming into an adjacent wall when I slipped off the coping. First off, why, oh why do people wax steel pipe coping on mini ramps? Can you seriously not get your trucks to slide on bare steel? Have you never heard of ankling the grind to get it started? I'm going to start carrying around little pieces of grip tape to strip the wax off the steel pipe coping at the local parks. Wax is for cement and square rails, people! Sometimes, I wear gloves when I skate. I get worker gloves from the home supply store. These gloves help a lot to prevent hand injuries from slowing me down at work. 

Once again, yoga helps prevent injuries and helps heal them when they happen. So does Tai Chi before skating. A reader of this blog recommended slow, deliberate movements before skating, and I've been doing that. It really works. Stretching before skating doesn't help much, and in some cases it actually increases the likelihood of injuries. Stretching after skating helps a lot - the muscles and tendons are warm and filled with blood, and ready to stretch. 

Getting old is painful, but it doesn't have to mean that you can't skate anymore! The trick is to find the balance. I still learn new tricks - on Monday I learned a frontside 50-50 down a 8-foot-long, 12-inch-high ledge that went down the side of a banked incline. But I keep my skating mellow and mostly in my comfort zone. I push myself on new tricks once a week, when I'm well-rested, usually on Monday. Most of the time I just try to do my normal tricks faster, longer, higher. 

What about you all? What kind of injuries are you nursing? What do you do differently so you can continue skating? Magnus Gunnar in Malmo reported via the facebook page that he had a broken toe for a while - what was that like? Sound off in the comments!

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  1. Hi Bertrand,

    I like to do slow stretches before and after I skate. I also try to eat bananas or avocados for the potassium (and taste), so that my joints don't get as sore. Staying well hydrated with water and coconut water is also part of the routine. Living in Boston, I find that when it gets cold out, dressing a little warmer than I actually need to will get me in a good sweat, which makes me more limber. I also commute by bike to work, (~10 miles daily) plus longer recreational/weeknight rides. Besides being fun, this keeps my weight down. I figure that if I'm lighter than I'll have less pressure on my body parts (especially knees) and that I'll have less mass than I need to pull into the air when ollieing. Hope this is helpful.

    -Andy in Boston

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    1. Thanks for the advice. My orthopedist advised me that reducing weight won't help my knees as much as getting really strong. Better, he says, to be heavy but very strong than light but very weak. Bicycle commuting is a great way to keep limber.

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    2. What about some knee-bondage under your knee pads? I think these stuff are maybe similar/ better than the 187 knee gaskets:

      http://www.sprechstundenbedarf-praxisbedarf.de/Bandage/Bauerfeind/Kniebandagen_Knie_Bandagen/Genutrain_S_Kniebandage.jpg

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  2. Hey bro,

    I use to ride bowl-/ pools... first when I started (till now) I skate only with helmet, ellbow & kneepads and also wrist guards. Last month I upgraded to the "best" TSG protection (TSG Force)... I can't really do the "kneepad" slide (while bailing) and so I'm falling a lot of time on my hands - but no problem with my wrist guards (they helps definitly). 80% I bail on my left hips/ pelvic... Today I bought the TSG crash pants (also available from Triple 8 etc.) - they are awesome.. I can wear them, like a short, unter my dickies shorts.. you won't notice them and they gives full protection :) Cause I hit so often on the hips that after it.. I can really walk for 3-4 weeks... and as often I bail on it - it tooks more and more to "heal"...

    Another pro is.. that I reached higher drops and dare to do more tricks (cause I'm feeling safe ;)).

    Cheers

    //Chris

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    1. Thanks, Chris! I now have a set of Triple 8 pants on the way. I hit my pelvis all the time when I skate ramps. What kind of Dickies shorts do you have? Can you provide a web link? I've been looking for baggy Dickies here in the Vereinigten Staaten, but the styles are all skinny pants right now.

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    2. Hey, I wear the "Dickies O-Dog Work Shorts" (normal I wear 32x32 or 32x34 - these ones I choosed 34x34) -> http://image.skatedeluxe.de/images/product_images/popup_images/11031_0.jpg

      ...and when it's getting colder I war (als long version) the Dickies O-Dog 8754 Workpants
      -> http://image.skatedeluxe.de/images/product_images/popup_images/14727_0.jpg

      awesome quality - last for me longer than normal jeans and they are really "light weight" and you don't feel them on your skin :)

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    3. I'm all for pads, and I'm a big fan of hip pads. For about a year I've been using snowboard undershorts, the kind with thermoformed foam, which worked in that they reduced the bruises, but they got kinda sweaty.

      Then I did some research and found Forcefield protective wear - http://www.forcefieldbodyarmour.com/product/upgrade-performance-armour/2363 - who make four layer nitrex pads as 'soft' motorbike and ski armor. They sell an 'upgrade armor' hip pad for GBP 20 per pair that can be sewn into shorts. These are the dogs danglies - I used a bit of spare elastic to make a retainer so the pads can be removed for washing, and fitted them right over my hip bruises.

      The nitrex mesh moulds to your hip and disperses the energy when you fall. I can't really feel them when I'm skating and I can totally customize where the protection is. I also use Pro-designed wrist guards, which have a molded spoon like inner splint that feels great, though I removed the outer splint as it felt like it would break my forearm bones in a fall.

      Loads of people I skate with in outdoor concrete bowls skate with nothing, and loads of them break wrists, chip their hips and elbows etc. The way I see it I want to skate (and other stuff) well into old age, and if it ain't right, you've got to make it yourself.

      Paul, Edinburgh

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    4. Check out Skeletools. The best crash pants I have ever used. Have slammed on coping on my coxic (?) twice and walking the next day.

      Amazing. http://www.skeletools.com/

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    5. Hey, thanks! I'll check it out. I've slammed my coccyx twice, once in each direction. Funny enough, I can stretch my back by leaning back and kind of "crack" my coccyx back into place. I do the same thing with my right foot turf toe and my left knee: stretch them, contract the muscles, and the joints go back into place. Gnarly.
      Even so, I would have preferred to keep my coccyx the way it was. I will definitely check out the crash pants and write a review.
      I have a set of Triple 8 crash pants that are pretty decent, it would be nice to compare them to something else.

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  3. The mongo push came up here in the 90s as far as i remember.
    In the 80s it wasnt an issue. But i dont remember terms like "switch" and "nollie" from back then neither. But maybe i was too busy practicing jump ramp.

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    1. Thanks, Stedenko. Somebody once told me it was a joke in a magazine interview in the 80s. Thrasher was interviewing some skater, and the skater jokingly said something like, "I don't know. Let's make fun of people who push with the front foot. People are making fun of everything else in skating. Why not that?" There are some serious mongo haters out there, but the only good skater I've seen care about whether people push mongo or regular is Tony Hawk.

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  4. regarding the mongo push......who cares, as long as you push.this is skateboarding, do what you want to do !!

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    1. Crazy Dutch DudeMay 7, 2012 at 12:20 PM

      WTF?! There are no rules in skateboarding! Try a mongo "bongo" some time, it will spice up your life (and your girls' )!!
      Anyway, I use wristguards all the time (always have) and the rest when skating miniramps etc.
      Come to think of it , i have some padding shorts laying around from snowboarding, gonna give them a try.
      Happy skating y'all!

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  5. I got turf toe on my right foot (big toe) a little over 6 weeks ago. It still hasn't healed. I stayed off of it for 4 weeks and have been working to rehabilitate it these past two weeks. For the most part it doesn't hurt to walk and I can push with my back foot with out any pain. But it's still painful to try and raise my big toe to its maximum height and it hurts when I flex the toe while bearing weight on it. As a result I am extra cautious with the tricks that I do while skating to prevent injuring it more. I work on skating switch and pushing with my back foot switch (it's easier to push with my front foot switch but that's my injured foot). Skating is one of the few things in life that I care about the most and as you know with turf toe it's torture not being able to skate to your full potential. I am curious how long have you been dealing with turf toe? Has it healed yet? Does it keep reoccurring? Any tips to deal with it or rehabilitate it? I have been trying everything. I did talk to a physical trainer and he said that using it while pushing is good rehab for it, which was nice to hear. Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions regarding my injury. I am happy to be able to push pain free finally. But I really want it to heal all the way so I don't have to worry about re-injuring it easily.

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    1. I got turf toe on both feet in fall of 2010. My left toe has since healed, my right toe has never healed has now developed bone spurs on it. So, I have lots of advice for you.
      1. Don't push with it if it hurts! I know what your physical trainer said, but pushing with my back foot (right foot) has prolonged the injury to the point that I've caused semi-permanent damage. You really don't want bone spurs!
      2. Wear extremely flexible shoes that are 1-2 sizes too big. You want shoes to fit where your big toe doesn't touch the front of the shoe when the turf toe joint swells. I went from size 13 to size 14 in my shoes and that is what helped my left foot heal. When you're not skating, and your toe isn't swollen, wear very stiff soled shoes that also do not allow your turf toe to touch the front of the shoe or the inside top of the shoe. That last point is important; try to get boxy toed shoes to keep your toe from touching the inside of the shoe except on the bottom of the toe. Some people even cut out a piece of the insole right under the big toe so that it kind of "hangs" there without touching anything - this is a good idea. Turf toe gets worse when your toe is pushed against the shoe when you walk, pushing the joint around and aggravating it more. If your turf toe is swollen and you're not skating, wear flexy shoes.
      3. Replace your skate shoes when you get swelling on your turf toe that doesn't go down by the next morning. If you wake up the next morning after skating, and your turf toe hurts to walk on - stop skating in that pair of shoes. Don't worry, the shoes are usually pretty worn by the time this happens. I get about 3-4 weeks per pair of skate shoes. I find that I can still use the old shoes to walk around during the day and I do pretty well.
      4. The turf toe brace (like Dr. Big Toe or similar http://www.drbigtoe.com/) really works. It will help you heal a young turf toe injury.
      5. The crappiest thing about turf toe is that your push foot is more likely to get turf toe. This means that, even if you try to heal it up by pushing mongo, you're still going to have pain when doing technical tricks that make you push down with the ball of your foot. Ollies are fine, but pop shuvits kind of hurt. I've stopped doing pop shuvits off the tail, and instead do them "switch fakie", i.e. off the nose. Kickflips are okay, but heelflips hurt.

      The more I think about it, the more I think that skaters should push mongo when they're doing big pushes, and push back foot when they only need small pushes. You don't need to flex your toe as much when you push mongo and you want to push big. If you want to impress the bullies at the local skate park, get your turf toe, get your bone spurs, and sit out from skateboarding for the rest of your life. If you want to skate all the way into your 50s, 60s, and beyond, push ambipedally: front foot for big speed, back foot for fine tuning.

      Keep us informed about your progress!

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  6. First of all. Thank you for your time and advice.

    It actually doesn't hurt when I push. I waited 4 weeks before I stepped on a board and about 5 more days before I started pushing again. I would just use ramps to get speed for my tricks. Then I gradually started pushing. I wouldn't say it's 100% when I push but I don't notice any significant pain. I have noticed a few tricks that I can't do because of minor pain. I don't pop anything as high as normal as a precaution. For now I plan to continue pushing regular for two reasons. The first is that I don't notice any pain and the second is that it is difficult for me to push mongo. So I would rather not re learn how to push. When I was young, my friend pushed mongo and I thought that was the proper way to push so I tried learning it but found it to difficult for me. Now though, when I push switch it is easier to push mongo. Using my right foot. Since this injury I have been working on pushing switch with my left foot (switch regular) which is difficult but that was mostly to stay off my right foot. Now that I can push regular again, I tend to push mongo switch anytime I want to get more speed for a switch trick.

    As of today it has been 6 and a half weeks since I injured my toe. I only notice pain off the board when I do toe raises and raise to the maximum height that my toe allows. But I can stay slightly below maximum height and feel minimal or no pain. The other way I feel pain is when my foot is flat on the ground and I use the muscles in my feet to raise the big toe all the way up. If I raise it about 90% of the way there is no pain. The fact that I don't have full range of motion without some pain makes me worried that I am still at risk of re-injuring it. I am curious how long it took for your left foot to heal 100%? I feel like I am at 75-80% off the board and progress is slowing way down. What are the symptoms of your right toe now that it has been over a year and a half?

    Currently I skate with shoes about a half size to big. They are vulcanized (very flexible) and the most comfortable to walk in and skate in. The doctor and physical therapist said to wear stiff soled shoes for everything but I tried a stiffer soled shoe and found that more flex is better because there is no pressure on any of the injury.

    Not sure if these have helped or hurt. But this is a list of stuff I have been doing for diet and rehabilitation. None of it prescribed. I take ginger root tablets and eat cinnamon, because they are supposedly good for reducing inflammation. I eat a lot of protein (60grams a day) supposed to be good for rebuilding tendons. I eat a lot of fruit which is also supposoed to be good for healing. Then I do 50 toe raises every day. I try spreading my toes to the point of pain and holding throughout the day. I manually stretch my toe with my hand which actually doesn't hurt anymore. So range of motion is coming back. Toe raises are also good for building ankle strength to essentially work back rolled ankles and prevent future rolls.

    I am really curious about healing times for you and if you did any rehab on the toes? If you think rehab helped or hurt it? Also if you started rehab to soon? Such as is it better to wait for the toe to heal 100% before using it? My fear is that if I waited 7 weeks for it to heal without using it, it would needs months of rehab to get it's range of motion back.

    Again, thank you for time and advice. I want to do whats best for my foot so I can skate into my 50's and 60's. But I also want to make sure I can get to wear I was before my injury. I am confident at this being possible. I don't here about this injury to often in skateboarders even though it seems it would be common.

    Last question. Did you get turf toe on both feet at the same time? Was it from a sudden blow to the toes or caused over time?

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    1. Wow! Thanks for all the information.
      My left toe healed because I rested it for 2 weeks and did gradual stretching exercises and strength exercises with it until it got to 100%. Total rehab time for left toe was about 9 weeks following the injury.
      My right toe was injured more and I kept skating on it while I rested my left toe. I did a lot of cruising with no tricks for those two weeks. Lots of cruising meant a lot of pushing. My right toe kept getting worse and worse, so I got stiffer and stiffer shoes, which made the toe get even worse. It was a bad cycle. After 6 weeks of trying stiffer and stiffer shoes, I got a pair of vulcanized size 14s and then, finally, the right toe leveled out and stopped getting worse. Since then, I've been skating Lakai Manchester Select shoes exclusively.
      I actually injured both toes at about the same time when I got a pair of Circa Tony Taves in size 13. The size 13 felt really tight, like about a size 11.5, but I had never had a pair of "puffy" skate shoes before, so I thought that was how they were supposed to feel. After only a week of skating these shoes, both of my toes were turfed because they were pretty much always right against the front of the shoes, and the pointed toes meant my feet were always sliding forward and pushing all my toes together, so my feet got really wrecked.
      I cut the Circa shoes up into little pieces so I could study what about them made my feet hurt so much. It was just so many factors. Stiff cupsole is pretty much the worst for my skating health. All that kook padding made the shoes look a certain way but they were actually very unhealthy for my feet and ankles. And the pointed toe box was the exact wrong shape for human feet. Big puffy skate shoes belong nowhere near my feet.
      Some vulcs, like Dekline shoes, are too thin. Some vulcs are too stiff. But Vans, Fallen, Lakai, and other vulc shoes are pretty great shoes for skating. My test is that if I can't easily fold the shoe in half, I'm not skating in it. But, like I said, I settled on Lakai Manchester Select and I get a new pair for about $20-30 every month. I catch them on sale and stock up. cheapsk8shoes.com and amazon.com are the most reliable sources for Size 14 Lakai Manchester Selects.
      Thanks for all the advice about healing them up. I think you took a far better and more productively healthy road to recovery than I did. What are your favorite shoes for skating?

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    2. Hey, I wanted to update you on this. I took your advice about manually stretching my big toe through the range of motion. After a couple of days, my right big toe feels a lot better. I can push with my right foot again, thank goodness. Thank you very much for the rehab advice!

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    3. Good to hear. Have you been keeping up with it? How is it feeling now?

      It will be 11 weeks for me in a few days and it's still not a 100%. I am skating more now, but it still worries me that I could easily re-injure it since its not all the way healed.

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    4. Yes, I have been stretching it every night and when I'm at my desk during the day. It feels a lot better now. I can push reliably with my right foot again. I still can't give big pushes, so I have to do a lot of little pushes to get speed up. No biggie. I make sure I "roll" my foot from ankle to toe to ensure I'm not just using the toe to push.

      Pushing mongo was easy to learn, but it was hard to set up sometimes for ollies. And if I was already going fast, it was very awkward to take my front foot off to give another push. So, it is nice to be pushing with my back foot again. What I learned from pushing mongo while my toe healed helps me out when I want to push and then do a trick off the nose of the board. I think everybody should learn to push both ways.

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  7. I have been wearing pretty much only Vans for 8 years now. Size 10. I had about 10 pairs of era pro's but right now I am skating the type 2. I also have a pair of the rowley spvs which are great to walk in with the injury. The vulc is nice on those. I got a pair of Vans stage 4's to try. I got them before the injury and I have only walked in them but the sole is stiffer on those then the other shoes (this is wear I noticed the discomfort from a stiffer soled shoe.) My shoes normally last me 3 to 4 weeks until they are completely un-skateable. But I was had just started wearing the type 2's when the injury happened. I stubbed/over extended my big toe landing on it wrong down a set of stairs. So these shoes are lasting longer then normal. I think the stage 4's will be a great shoe once my injury is healed. Needless to say I am big supporter of Vans. They have been good for me. I love vulcanized shoes. For some reason the new era pros being released seem to be made differently (hard to explain but they seem looser on my feet in the same size then normal) so I have been experimenting with other Vans shoes.

    I have friends who love Lakai. Specifically the Manchester selects. I think they look like a good shoe but Vans have been so good for me I don't really steer away to much. I have like some deklines and tried them but I still fall back to Vans.

    In a couple days I will hit 7 weeks for my injury. So hopefully the end is coming near. I didn't use it at all for 2 weeks exactly. The third week I had to go on a trip for work which required a lot of walking on for a whole week. But when I got back my legs were more sore then my toe and after that I have been able to walk relatively normal. I still couldn't stand on a board with out pain for a week after that. So it was in the fifth week that I started rehab and skating. My diet of a lot of fruit protein and water has been in effect since the injury. Including all of the normal RICE procedures during the first two weeks. Also, I ice it every night after skating and rehab just to be safe. I didn't have a lot of bruising with mine. Swelling lasted about 3 weeks.

    Did you ever tweak your left foot skating during the rehab stage? What I mean is slightly re-injure it while it was healing? So you have no problems with your left toe now? Or after the 11 weeks it took to get 100%? It's good to hear that staying off it for 8 weeks doesn't seem to be the answer for this injury. I figure most of the pain I am feeling is the tendons being tight and needing to be stretched back to where they were. Did you feel like when you were in the 70% to 80% range of being better, progress getting to 100% slowed way down? Thanks again for all of your advice and timely responses.

    Also, I don't know how people skate bulky cup soles. I'm sorry to hear the problems those circas caused. I won't be buying any of their shoes.

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  8. Hey there, I came across your blog after searching "skateboarding turf toe". I was looking for other skaters who have this injury and was hoping to find out what they have done to recover. Nice to see you guys making some progress.

    I am 34 and I injured my right (front) foot skating 5 months ago after an awkward fall where I broke my sesamoid bone and got turf toe. Another skater collided with me – more or less taking my feet out from me and while planting my foot to try to catch myself from face planting I did the damage. I was not warmed up at the time and was out for a quick skate at the park on my lunch break. It hurt a lot but I assumed it was sprained, so I did not see a doctor. I took 2 weeks of the RICE treatment and then slowly began to put weight on it again. I did not even attempt to skate on it for a month. While I went hiking and other activities normal skateboarding or any kind of jumping around was still out of the question after 2 months.

    So I had xrays and saw a podiatrist. He diagnosed the broken sesamoid and turf toe injury. It was too late to put a cast on it and he prescribed a much stronger version of Voltarin gel and told me to wear very stiff shoes with rocker. Since then I have been wearing these northface hiking shoes every day and applying the gel twice a day. I have no idea if I'm improving. It may be that my efforts to put weight on it and actually use my toe have been aggravating things more. I'm not sure if I should avoid all use or if I should continue to use it and build back strength. I don't know if it is supposed to hurt during every use. After a short uphill walk last night I could not press down with my toe on my hand without succumbing to the pain – almost as if the tendon failed.

    It has been exceedingly frustrating and with the months rolling by I am getting more an more concerned this will never resolve. My next attempt at recovery will be to purchase some carbon turf toe inserts for my shoes. Apparently these "Clyde's famous X1 blades for turf toe" are supposed to work. The site indianabrace.com looks a little sketchy (especially their videos) but the reviews seem good.

    Have you guys tried any turf toe insoles?

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  9. Just discovered the blog and like what I see,I turn 37 this month and I still skate. I took 15 years off after destroying my low back (herniated disc,protruding disc,sciatic nerve compression,and osteoarthritis) but I missed it so much I started back two years ago. I'm not as good as when I was 20 but kickflips,heelflips,shuvits,no complies,and ollies of varying types happen more often than not. I started having pain in my shoulders after I had been skating again (6 months in) after an MRI my doc told me I have a herniated disc in my neck and told me skating was not an option. I lost 15 years of the thing I love,I'm not stopping again. Took it easy over the winter and yeah I'm getting older,and I hurt everyday,but I'm a skater,have been for years,and it's the one label I don't mind,and I push mongo. If you want rules or guidelines join a slow pitch softball team.....

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  10. This is the 2nd time in 8 years for me to have a hard body slam - the 1st being a hang-up on a Monty grind in the SPoT (Skatepark of Tampa) bowl right in front of the man himself, Monty Nolder! (I was trying to throw the trick in as appreciation to our Florida skate hero!)

    Well, on this past July 4th, I was 7/8 of the way thru the carve of the bowl at the end of our brand new snake run when my foot decided it wanted be finicky and slip, throwing me full-force into the wall! I got up and walked it off - even skated for another hour. Pain didn't start kickin' in until later in the night/next day. The pain seems to have gotten worse each day. And now it feels really awkward when I move certain ways 'cause I can feel a "clicking" or "popping" of either a rib or some cartilage.

    It's great that, now that we’re older, some of our skating buddies are now nurses & doctors!
    My good buddy, a chiropractor & former pro skater, came by my store and gave me a good look-over this afternoon. Nothing broken off, but probably fractures.

    I feel like I wanna wear a wrap 'cause I just don't like the "popping" feeling when I move certain ways. That, itself, isn't painful.
    I appreciate any tips 'cause I certainly want to heal up quickly so I can be back on board!
    Thanks!
    Rudy

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