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Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Introduction: Tensor Ten 5.75 Mid

One of the most elusive trucks to find are the Tensor Ten 5.75 mid. Johnny Ronci - a gifted musician, by the way - is a facebook follower and fellow skate fanatic. Johnny was diligent, persuasive, and assertive in acquiring from Tensor themselves a set of 5.75 mids. Johnny was in turn kind enough to sell the 5.75 mids to me.

The elusive Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid.
I reviewed the Tensor Ten 5.75 Low trucks a while ago. I finally found that it was best to use tall barrel (15mm) bottom bushings in the 5.75 Low trucks to get a good height and proper, no-wheelbite turning for a
heavy dude like me. The Ten 5.75 Low trucks became awesomely tight-turning bowl carvers that grind concrete very smoothly.

The vital specifications of the 5.75 mids are:
Hanger width: 146mm / 5.75"
Weight: 295 grams
Height: 53.25 mm
Axle displacement: 31.5 mm

The Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid show some significant changes from the currently available Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Lows. The logos are cast into the baseplates instead of raised up, the "10" on the pivot housing is cast instead of painted, and the bottom of the baseplate has no nubs on it.

Here are some pictures:
Johnny Ronci, who sold the trucks to me, said that Globe Distribution (Tensor's parent company) sent the Ten 5.75 Mids  especially from the truck's designer, and the trucks came in a mag light box signed by Zered Bassett. 

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid. Side view.

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid.

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid. The "10" is cast, instead of painted on.

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid. The "Tensor" is cast in, instead of raised up, like on the other Tens.

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid. No nubs! Thank goodness, because I have gotten into the habit of filing those nubs off my Tensors.

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid. Typical high quality assembly and finishing from Tensor shown here in the chased and oiled kingpin threads.

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid.

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid. Typical high quality Tensor manufacturing and finishing. Chased and oiled axle threads.

Tensor Ten Magnesium 5.75 Mid. A view of the other truck's chased and oiled kingpin threads. Super high quality from Tensor.




40 comments:

  1. Thanks for the kind words buddy!
    Hope you enjoy them man.
    Keep up the great reviews. :)
    - Johnny

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  2. Just an FYI Thunder 151s are out. They are essentially the same hanger and axle width as INdy 159s but a lot lighter. Hollow kingpin and forged baseplates. They seem about the same height an Stage 10s, so higher than the Thunder 149s.

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    1. Search as I might, I cannot find info on Thunder 151s anywhere. Could you point me to a website? Thanks.

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    2. I finally got a hold of a set of 151s. Thanks for the tip! They're in the review cycle now, along with a bunch of other 8.75ish trucks.

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  3. They should be in the next catalog, which I'm guessing should be out within the next week or two. They are a definite improvement on the 149s.

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    1. Thanks! I'll keep an eye out for the Spring Catalog

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    2. http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=33123

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  4. Hi, i ride ace 33 hi's, and like how they turn (pretty much like indys i think). I'm thinking of trade those in for some lighter trucks. I'm used to the indy and the aces feel of the turnings,loong slow turns..

    Which light trucks in the market would you say are closest in turning radius compered to indys and ace's?

    I've looked at Thunder hollow lights 147 hi's, i'm concerned that maybe the thunders quick turning feel
    will be a big leap from what i'm used to.
    What do you think?

    Awesome blog btw. Your articles and answers in the comments have helped me many times : )

    /Rudy

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    1. Trucks that turn similar to Independents abound: Gullwing Shadow DLX, Silver, Bullet, Krux, and Theeve.
      Thunders are significantly different than Independents, they are in the tight turning class with Tensors, Ventures, and other trucks that push the axles out towards the ends of the boards.
      If you're getting weary with Ace weight, I would really recommend Theeves with Indy aftermarket Genuine Parts bushings in them. The TiH are magically strong - no bent axles for sure - but expensive, the TiAX and TiKING give you everything the TiH does except the light weight and straight axles, don't bother with the CSX.
      Most of the other Indy clones don't feel very nice to skate. The Krux are nice enough, but lack a certain something, they feel like toys.
      Try the Theeves.

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    2. Hey, I got a good deal on some 5.25 daewon low 10’s, coming from an 8.25 setup with thunder 149 hi hollow lights. I’m mostly cruising but wanting to do more park and bowls and street..I had 50mm stf v3’s on. So my next setup will probably be about an 8” board with 53-54mm wheels (I know, might wanna get some riser pads) and then to my question: how will the turning be ? I know you put it in the thunder category, but will the wheel biting/when you have too much forward weight on, be an issue, like it was with my thunders? i was riding the bones yellow though with removes top and bottom metal washers, and I’m 32, 177cm 71kg with not the best balance in the world..So anyway I noticed that because of the perhaps too soft for me yellow bones hardcore, and the lack of top and bottom metal washers (had thrown them out at this point) would mean that the truck would turn “infinitely” until it’d wheel bite. I believe the proper way of avoiding it (which I guess is common sense for regular skaters) is to have those washers in (with the tensors, I guess it’d just be the top washer, as it has a built in bottom one, where the thunders would have a slim bottom meaning the bottom bones hardcore bushing wouldn’t be able to be squishes - thus stopping the wheel at the last millimeters before wheel biting, if setup properly)

      Long story short, I’m thinking of trying the tensors mostly due to the deal I’ll get and the weight, and trying something different. But theoretically the indy’s would be the ones suited for my lack of balance..so I guess I’m just wanting to know before buying, if it’ll be the right choice for someone like me, or if I should go the traditional indy way and forget about the extra weight. I did like the thunders turning and the bones bushings ability to get the hanger back to horizontal level, just not the lack of stoppage before wheel bite :)

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    3. Tensors are worth a try if you've never skated them before. 53-54mm wheels might be too tall for 5.25 Tensor low trucks; I would be using 50mm wheels on 5.25 lows. The turning on Tensors is "tippy with a sharp dive", meaning you have kind of an effort to start the turn, like getting over a hump, then the trucks turn rapidly. If you skate Tensors loose, this unique geometry makes them ultra responsive but not drastic when you do small adjustments in a straight line, and then responsive and sharply turning when you dive deep on the carve. This geometry, unfortunately, also makes them prone to wheelbite. My recommended solution is to use hard tall barrel bushings in the boardside ("bottom" of the kingpin, between the hanger and the baseplate) bushing position. This significantly tames the wheelbite on Tensor 10 lows without losing the quick geometry.
      Because of the ultra responsiveness on lines, the Tensors are a little like Thunders. Unlike Thunders, however, Tensors turn deeper and sharper when you're carving or turning.
      Hope this helps, let us know what you end up with!

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  5. Skating the Tensor 10 149 lows right now ( i added 1/8 riser ) to make it a mid.. All i can say is YIKES. Ive been eating shit for 2 weeks. Slamming more than ever. Ive tried all the hardest bushings, and settled on the black thunder hard bushings - even tightend down as far as i can... im still eating shit. Lipslides and boardslides are the worst all the weight and force just coming down equals - Slam city. WAY too much wheel bite... ive never seen trucks have so much wheel bite... i might add another riser, but im thinking it wont matter... I'd stay away from these trucks, or wear alot of safty gear... The only good thing i can say is these are rediculously light and strong, but the rebound of a turn is non-existent... its weak and simple turns can stop you dead in your tracks and send you flying off your board.. im skating 49mm wheels too. Dangerous trucks mate. Hope these Mids have a different feel and turning strength.

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    1. Your Tensor 10 5.75 lows would perform a lot better and with significantly less wheelbite if you used tall barrel bottom (boardside) bushings on them. Go for Venom pink or green downhill bushings. With these bushings, even at my 230 pounds, I don't wheelbite with my Tensor 5.75 lows with no riser; in fact, they've turned into tight and magical carving machines on a 15" wheelbase.

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  6. Thanks for the answers.
    Think i order the TIH's.
    / Rudy

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  7. adding the highest bottom bushing known to man, doesnt keep the trucks low like the purpose of the trucks were made to be. It turns it into a mid to high truck, which totally defeats the purpose. It does not fix the wheelbite problem, it only give you a set of thunders now instead of a low 149 .

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    1. Nope, these are the highest bottom bushings known to man: http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SKBEN100B&Category_Code=BU

      The point of the post is that, for heavy skaters, the Tensors behave better with a tall barrel bottom bushing. The tall barrel bottom takes the truck height from 46.5mm to 47mm - that is, in anybody's book, still a low truck. Thunder 149s are 49mm, and turn differently than Tensors.

      Another point of the post was to put the pressure on Tensor and Globe Distribution to finally release the 5.75 mid they've been promising for over a year now. And, we did it! Together, a bunch of us made that happen. Special thanks to Johnny Ronci and Jared McIver for that. Now we have low Tensor 149s for street and regular Tensor 149s for the bowls. Sweet.

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  8. Wow, I don't know if anyone has tried more kinds of trucks than you. This is a cool blog. Well I just got a set of tensor 5.25 lows and they have the same cast in logos as your mids and no bumps under the baseplate so maybe those changes are for the whole line now.

    Could I ask your advice on trucks? I skate around an 8.4 deck with 14.5-15" wheelbase in the local bowls. Indy 139s on there now. Do you think I have anything to gain by switching to some of these harder to find trucks on a shorter deck like this? Sounds like you switched from indys to theeves at some point, but maybe now bear?

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    1. 149 trucks would fit your 8.4 deck better. If you want to increase your apparent wheelbase, Thunders' axles are further toward the pivot point than Independents. On each of the trucks that I measure, I put the axle placement measurement there: the higher the number, the longer your apparent wheelbase, i.e., the distance between the front and back axles, will be. You can see the measurements of lots of trucks here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apox_SJ8CeMTdDFYSGk4OElQdUJxWmlkSGtBRXVFRkE#gid=0

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    2. BTW, I mention increasing the wheelbase because a lot of riders find more comfort on a longer wheelbase in bowls and pools, mainly because you can ride your trucks looser and not get speed wobbles.

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    3. I did some googling and realized bear trucks are made literally down the road from my house here in vancouver. I think I'm now morally obligated to try a set. Sounds interesting about the longer deck with looser trucks idea, I might give that a go. I don't feel unstable on what I've got now but that sounds like it could be a good feel.

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    4. Yep, cg, Canadian pride obligates you! Seriously, though, the Polar Bears are awesome trucks.

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  9. Finding a pair of Tensor lo, 149s is impossible. Only thing i hate about tensor, is getting used to a truck only to be impossible to find another pair if you need to. Thunder 149 or 147s are readily avaiblable anywhere, shops, online, cragslist, recycler, ... you name it. Skating Tensor is like a one time ordeal and then they change the design and features again and again and again. Inconsistant truck, no wonder there is like 5 riders on that team. Where Thunder has about 75 pros.

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    1. I hear what you say about the constant changes with Tensor trucks. Tensors 149s are easy to find. West Coast: http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?m=&c=626&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc
      East Coast: http://www.warehouseskateboards.com/skateboard-trucks#class=1T&sort=best&pg=1&ps=30&brand=TEN|&axlesize=778|

      Thunders and Independents far outsell any other truck out there. You're right, part of the reason for this is because Thunder and Independent maintain a fairly constant "feel" to them, with only incremental changes to adapt to the prevalent styles of skating. They are also decades older as corporations than Tensor, another reason for their extensive reach. Tensor is still growing and maturing as a company, but they are still the lightest tech truck out there: that is the customer base they're trying to reach. There will be consistency in Tensor trucks' "feel" soon.

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  10. Do these still have the long kingpin? I like beefier bottom bushings like Randals and Sabers. I have DLX manufactured trucks currently and cant use my preferred bushings because the kingpin is too short.

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    1. On a side note id be using a venture or bones hc short cone top

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    2. You're in luck: the 5.75 Ten lows and 5.75 Ten regulars both have the long kingpin. I, too, use a tall bottom bushing. In my Tensor 5.75 lows, I use a tall barrel boardside bushing. In my Tensor 5.75 regs, I use a tall cone boardside. Two reasons I use the tall cone on the regs: 1) cones work better in the smaller bushing cup on the baseplate, and 2) the regulars carve much better with a cone boardside rather than a barrel. The lows, on the other hand, are surfy little devils with the tall barrel bottoms and suffer lots of wheelbite with cone bottoms, tall or otherwise. I use Venom bushings in my Tensors boardside: green 93a for winter, pink 97a for summer. Randals and Sabre bushings are awesome, too.

      For my top bushing in Tensors 5.75s both low and regular, I use any small top cone around 90a. Tensor has a cool bushing in the regs that goes into the yoke kind of like a surf keyz. It works well. The lows don't really need it, the geometry is such that the trucks never really lean enough to rub up against the kingpin.

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    3. I should add that even though the kingpins are the long variants, they don't extend above the hanger. On both the Tensor 5.75 low and the 5.75 regular, the kingpin is tucked in below the hanger. Moreso on the regular than the low, but smooth nonetheless.

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    4. Awesome thanks,
      I skate a 8.3 lifeblood deck with Venture 5.8 Highs and its kind of big and beefy for the technical stuff Im starting to do, so im probably gonna get a pair of the magnesiums in 8.25 mid.

      Unrelated - Have you ever thought of doing wheel reviews?
      It would be awesome to have a comparison of say Bones, Minilogo, Autobahn, Spitfire, Ricta, Pig, Gold etc.

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    5. You should give Saber 93a barrels a try...lots of lean and tons of return to center.

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  11. so how do the tensor 5.75 Ten regulars compare to the polar bears, venture 5.8 lights, and indy 149 stage 11s for bowl use, grinds etc.? Will bear make a narrower version of the polar bear? jeff

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    1. Bear Trucks is releasing the Polar Bear in different sizes: 105, 130, 155, and 180mm. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=416609411764369&set=a.246780695413909.56354.231952393563406&type=1&relevant_count=1

      I haven't tried the Tensor 5.75 regulars in a bowl yet. When the weather warms up above 50, I will report on how they do. The Tensor 5.75 magnesium lows with a tall barrel boardside bushing turn sharply and with a lot of stability in the bowls, and they grind concrete better than any other truck I've tried. The Polar Bears have a shallow turn in comparison. In comparison to Tensor Ten 5.75 lows, the Venture 5.8 and 5.8 Lights are surfier, slower on the turn, quicker on the lean, and don't grind nearly as well, you have to ankle or bone out the grinds a lot to keep them going. In comparison to the Tensor Ten 5.75 lows, the Indy 149 stage XIs a lot quicker on the lean, not as sharp on the turn but just as quick to get there, and have a much higher ollie angle, making kickturns, 5-0s, and other one-truck tricks feel a lot higher. The Indy's extra height is a comfort for those who like the room, but uncomfortable for street skaters like me who like a low board. *I* feel most comfortable on my Tensors, but I definitely appreciate the high speed stability of the Indys and the high-clearance carving of the Ventures. The Polar Bears are my go-to trucks when I'm skating 8.75" or 9" boards, but they don't turn or carve as well as the Tensors, Indys, or Ventures. They are, however, the best grinding aluminum trucks I've skated. I've actually purchased a set of Don't Trip Trippins in size 160 low for my 8.75" - 9" boards, and upon skating them in my driveway I notice they feel a lot like Tensor lows in how they turn, ollie, and so on. http://www.dont-trip.com/DontTripTrippins.htm They're a little wheel-bitey right now, but I'm still figuring out the right bushing situation for them. I intend to try those in the bowl, too, and will report back.

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  12. I currently ride polar bears on my cruiser (real low pro 8.5, ricta clouds 54mm) and for parks, bowls, pools, venture 5.8 lights (real low pro 8.38) bones spf 52mm
    still love the feel of the ventures on tranny, tried the royal 8.5 axle trucks but couldnt solve the wheelbite very well.
    jeff

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    1. The Ventures are really nice on transition, for sure. The Royal 5.5s are better street trucks, but, yeah, they can wheelbite if you ride them too loose.

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    2. Do you use risers for your Polar Bears? Are you using the short wheelbase or long wheelbase truck holes?

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  13. used to ride ace 44 and loved the turning but just skate best on ventures or polar bears. jeff

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    1. Except when sidewalk surfing or bowl carving, I always felt a little unsteady on the Ace 44s. They are really focused trucks.

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  14. I don't have risers on the polar bears but I router out a small oval about halfway through the deck to get the same clearance as a 1/8" riser or maybe a little better.I ride it on the normal narrow bolt pattern on that 14 3/4" wb 8.5" low pro. I mount trucks first and get some good wheel burn to center my jig for routing.

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  15. On the ventures I don't need to route the deck for 54mm or smaller wheels and bones medium bushings to get full carve. I'm only 165 lb. and 5'10"

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  16. So im planning to get Tensor Aluminum or Magnesium mids in 8.25. Would you by chance know if Venom freerides or randal barricals fit in the "bushing seat" on the baseplate? The bottom bit of those bushings are pretty much in between the size of a cone and a barrel.

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  17. Hey guys just a heads up I have a mint set of both 5.75 reg Mag 10s and 5.75 low Mag 10s available. They are barely used, no grind marks or real evidence of them being used whatsoever. The Bertrand knows how to get a hold of me if you are interested in these. I'm selling them for $35 a set plus shipping. They cost a lot more new.

    Thanks.

    Jared

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